Only increased cc´s in a fuel injection 1600i make a sense?

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Only increased cc´s in a fuel injection 1600i make a sense?

Beitragvon juanpablo1969 » Fr 3. Jun 2016, 20:13

Hi Guys ;

I´m Juan Pablo from Chile; installed stock ACD mexican 1600i in my street legal Baja, but with big tires, and 4.12 tranny will be need more torque......To increase torque a little bit it makes sense to increase cc´s or valve size?....Will be ideal for me keep with the complete stock EFI system for mpg and emission controls.

Thank you and regards.
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Re: Only increased cc´s in a fuel injection 1600i make a se

Beitragvon Red1600i » So 5. Jun 2016, 10:38

The easy way for 70PS is a upgrade to 1776ccm with 90.5mm Pistons/cylinders.

That means, the case and the heads must be machined to this cylinders. But nothing else.

No further modifications but the 1800i 70PS Tafel eprom chip.

This is the most simple way for the very first upgrade with Motor machining.
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Re: Only increased cc´s in a fuel injection 1600i make a se

Beitragvon juanpablo1969 » So 5. Jun 2016, 13:32

Red1600i hat geschrieben:The easy way for 70PS is a upgrade to 1776ccm with 90.5mm Pistons/cylinders.

That means, the case and the heads must be machined to this cylinders. But nothing else.

No further modifications but the 1800i 70PS Tafel eprom chip.

This is the most simple way for the very first upgrade with Motor machining.


Thank you Red1600i;

Can you explainme better please; 1800i 70PS Tafel EPROM chip??
Stock 1600i ecu is a problem?
Regards.
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Re: Only increased cc´s in a fuel injection 1600i make a se

Beitragvon aviator » Mo 6. Jun 2016, 09:01

You need a new chip for the ECU to change fuel and ignition values. The ECU itself stays the same except for the chip. Tafel is one company in Germany who program the chip and Manfred, who runs this site, has also done this in the past and you could write to him asking if he still does.

Red1600i is one of the experts on fuel injected type one engines here in Germany so his advise is usually gold.
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Re: Only increased cc´s in a fuel injection 1600i make a se

Beitragvon Red1600i » Mo 6. Jun 2016, 11:41

The ECU unit itself is not changed, but the Eprom Chip with the data must fit to the bigger displacement.

TAFEL was the dealer who made the engeniering in the 90ties and sold these engines.
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Re: Only increased cc´s in a fuel injection 1600i make a se

Beitragvon juanpablo1969 » Mo 6. Jun 2016, 13:38

aviator hat geschrieben:You need a new chip for the ECU to change fuel and ignition values. The ECU itself stays the same except for the chip. Tafel is one company in Germany who program the chip and Manfred, who runs this site, has also done this in the past and you could write to him asking if he still does.

Red1600i is one of the experts on fuel injected type one engines here in Germany so his advise is usually gold.


Really appreciate that!
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Re: Only increased cc´s in a fuel injection 1600i make a se

Beitragvon juanpablo1969 » Mo 6. Jun 2016, 13:41

Red1600i hat geschrieben:The ECU unit itself is not changed, but the Eprom Chip with the data must fit to the bigger displacement.

TAFEL was the dealer who made the engeniering in the 90ties and sold these engines.


I understand fine......But I need to import this chip from Germany?....New CR recommended?......Switch to 32x35,5 valve size not recommended?.... same stock deck height?


Thanksx1000
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Re: Only increased cc´s in a fuel injection 1600i make a se

Beitragvon juanpablo1969 » Di 7. Jun 2016, 18:26

Hi Guys;

How I can get the 1800i 70PS Tafel EPROM chip data?


Best regards.
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